Comments on: SEO Myth Busting – Does Rank Leak Exist And Are We Suffering From PageRank Paranoia? http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/ Down-To-Earth Advice For Bloggers and Internet Marketers Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:31:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: BillinDetroit http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-35072 BillinDetroit Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:25:18 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-35072 I give the outlinks wherever they are due. IF (repeat IF) they cause 'Page Rank Leakage', they are no more than a proper price to pay for referencing (usually) other peoples' material. I use a plugin that allows a conditional do-follow that is normally enabled. I yank the plug only rarely. I give the outlinks wherever they are due. IF (repeat IF) they cause ‘Page Rank Leakage’, they are no more than a proper price to pay for referencing (usually) other peoples’ material. I use a plugin that allows a conditional do-follow that is normally enabled. I yank the plug only rarely.

]]> By: Book Fan http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-31301 Book Fan Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:35:47 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-31301 I believe in the assumption that the number of outbound links do not directly affect Google Pagerank. I believe in the assumption that the number of outbound links do not directly affect Google Pagerank.

]]> By: 10 SEO Myths | Edmonds Commerce Blog http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1353 10 SEO Myths | Edmonds Commerce Blog Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:46:36 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1353 [...] SEO Myth Number 5 The SEO Myth SEO Myths Three SEO Myths Debunked Busting Google Indexation Myths Are We Suffering from Pagerank Paranoia There are No Secrets and Other SEO [...] [...] SEO Myth Number 5 The SEO Myth SEO Myths Three SEO Myths Debunked Busting Google Indexation Myths Are We Suffering from Pagerank Paranoia There are No Secrets and Other SEO [...]

]]> By: Marianne Sweeny http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1352 Marianne Sweeny Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:12:25 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1352 This is the first that I've heard of the "pagerank leak" issue and I am fascinated by the concern. I did some poking around and found this clarificationon the Google Webmaster's blog: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/blogher-2007-building-your-audience.html where they clearly dispute the concept. MY understanding is that pagerank is a page valuation determined by the number of links going TO a page and does not factor the number of links going FROM a page. That valuation might be part of the whole Authority model of relevance ranking. It is possible that Google has configured its algorithm to discount "nonsense" links, i.e. those that come from the junk drawer, catch all, Resources pages used for reciprocal linking policies. I do not see how/why they would diminish the pagerank of the destination page for something like then but, then, stranger things have happened with Google. This is the first that I’ve heard of the “pagerank leak” issue and I am fascinated by the concern. I did some poking around and found this clarificationon the Google Webmaster’s blog: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/blogher-2007-building-your-audience.html where they clearly dispute the concept. MY understanding is that pagerank is a page valuation determined by the number of links going TO a page and does not factor the number of links going FROM a page. That valuation might be part of the whole Authority model of relevance ranking. It is possible that Google has configured its algorithm to discount “nonsense” links, i.e. those that come from the junk drawer, catch all, Resources pages used for reciprocal linking policies. I do not see how/why they would diminish the pagerank of the destination page for something like then but, then, stranger things have happened with Google.

]]> By: PageRank Explained - Keeping SEO Simple » Entrepreneur’s Journey - by Yaro Starak http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1351 PageRank Explained - Keeping SEO Simple » Entrepreneur’s Journey - by Yaro Starak Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:43:55 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1351 [...] PageRank paranoia is an issue that every webmaster may fall victim to. There are rumours that Google will be changing the PageRank system because they are not happy with how it is being manipulated and interpreted. As a rule of thumb, watch the green bar with interest but don’t take it too seriously or spend too much time trying to force it to increase (staring and yelling at it will do you no good, trust me on that one). [...] [...] PageRank paranoia is an issue that every webmaster may fall victim to. There are rumours that Google will be changing the PageRank system because they are not happy with how it is being manipulated and interpreted. As a rule of thumb, watch the green bar with interest but don’t take it too seriously or spend too much time trying to force it to increase (staring and yelling at it will do you no good, trust me on that one). [...]

]]> By: settings for a higher PR - vBulletin SEO Forums http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1349 settings for a higher PR - vBulletin SEO Forums Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:38:06 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1349 [...] Re: settings for a higher PR Not exactly. It sounds like you've fallen for the "PageRank Leak" myth and mixed it with a slightly different definition of "authority site" than what I'd use. Some people mistakenly think that linking to other sites will have a net negative effect on their seo efforts. While linking to the wrong sites can hurt you (as Michael mentioned above), Google includes outbound links in your overall scoring. From a conceptual standpoint, think about how useful it would be for a SE to consider what sites you link to in determining your relevance to a particular keyword. If Google sees that you link to:USFlag.orgUS History.orgAmerican Flag Forum at USA Flag Sitethen they can make a pretty good guess that your page is relevant to the American Flag. If it was me, I'd also consider the anchor text that your page used to link to thse sites in determining your page's scoring. You can't become an authority site (in Google's eyes) by simply limiting your outbound links. That's way too simplistic as that would lead to an unlimited number of authority sites on any given topic and would be ripe for manipulation by guys like me (and you ). My guess is that authority sites (again, in the eyes of Google) are few and far between. It's probably a combination of stable links from a wide range of other high quality sites (with an emphasis on your certain topic) plus what you've got on your site in terms of content, site structure, activity (or lack of changes)... So from my perspective, outbound links to useful sites are a good thing. Rel nofollow the spammy links but you're hurting yourself if you rel nofollow good links. Good luck, Ross __________________ GoTeamsGo Sports Forum [...] [...] Re: settings for a higher PR Not exactly. It sounds like you’ve fallen for the "PageRank Leak" myth and mixed it with a slightly different definition of "authority site" than what I’d use. Some people mistakenly think that linking to other sites will have a net negative effect on their seo efforts. While linking to the wrong sites can hurt you (as Michael mentioned above), Google includes outbound links in your overall scoring. From a conceptual standpoint, think about how useful it would be for a SE to consider what sites you link to in determining your relevance to a particular keyword. If Google sees that you link to:USFlag.orgUS History.orgAmerican Flag Forum at USA Flag Sitethen they can make a pretty good guess that your page is relevant to the American Flag. If it was me, I’d also consider the anchor text that your page used to link to thse sites in determining your page’s scoring. You can’t become an authority site (in Google’s eyes) by simply limiting your outbound links. That’s way too simplistic as that would lead to an unlimited number of authority sites on any given topic and would be ripe for manipulation by guys like me (and you ). My guess is that authority sites (again, in the eyes of Google) are few and far between. It’s probably a combination of stable links from a wide range of other high quality sites (with an emphasis on your certain topic) plus what you’ve got on your site in terms of content, site structure, activity (or lack of changes)… So from my perspective, outbound links to useful sites are a good thing. Rel nofollow the spammy links but you’re hurting yourself if you rel nofollow good links. Good luck, Ross __________________ GoTeamsGo Sports Forum [...]

]]> By: SEO Articles http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1350 SEO Articles Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:46:54 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1350 I stopped religiously tracking my pagerank across various sites a while ago. I realised that good sites can still rank well, and often my content pages have a higher PR than the homepage. PR is good for credibility though, and I still believe high PR sites get crawled more often. I stopped religiously tracking my pagerank across various sites a while ago. I realised that good sites can still rank well, and often my content pages have a higher PR than the homepage.

PR is good for credibility though, and I still believe high PR sites get crawled more often.

]]> By: PlusOne Marketing http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1348 PlusOne Marketing Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:27:36 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1348 I think the subject of 'does PR matter anyway' should also be addressed - thus eliminating any paranoia at all! Google search results are full of low PR sites ranking higher in the results than ones with a high PR. I think the subject of ‘does PR matter anyway’ should also be addressed – thus eliminating any paranoia at all! Google search results are full of low PR sites ranking higher in the results than ones with a high PR.

]]> By: Alborz http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1347 Alborz Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:02:36 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1347 Hmm, I sure suffer from Pagerank Paranoia. I was highly dissapointed to see Google not increasing the PR of my main page. It did however increase the PR of my register page to the same as the main page! That was rather suprising and confusing. Nevertheless a PR of 4, and having been online for only 5 months isn't so bad I think. It will take time, but I am trying to get its PR up to a 5 hopefully by the end of the year. I find the patience factor a huge problem. I can't stand having to wait 4 months for each PR update. They need todo it weekly :) or like, have this system where they send you updates whenever a page you have claimed is updated. Yeah a PR newsletter, can you imagine the amount of money they can make having a PR newsletter. Subscribe to PR newsletter from Google and learn how to increase you PR! Yeah, I'd pay for that. Hmm, I sure suffer from Pagerank Paranoia. I was highly dissapointed to see Google not increasing the PR of my main page. It did however increase the PR of my register page to the same as the main page! That was rather suprising and confusing.

Nevertheless a PR of 4, and having been online for only 5 months isn’t so bad I think. It will take time, but I am trying to get its PR up to a 5 hopefully by the end of the year.

I find the patience factor a huge problem. I can’t stand having to wait 4 months for each PR update. They need todo it weekly :) or like, have this system where they send you updates whenever a page you have claimed is updated. Yeah a PR newsletter, can you imagine the amount of money they can make having a PR newsletter. Subscribe to PR newsletter from Google and learn how to increase you PR! Yeah, I’d pay for that.

]]> By: Martin http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/comment-page-1/#comment-1346 Martin Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:39:40 +0000 http://candy.become-a-blogger.com/269/does-rank-leak-exist-pagerank-paranoia/#comment-1346 Yeah, I'm with you on the PageRank issue. I think we've all become to conscious of it and it's making us waste our time and neglect real things we could be doing to make our sites better. The only benefit I get from my Pagerank (PR5) is that when I approach other bigger bloggers/websites and seek introductions I usually get a better foot in the door because they see my pagerank and assume I must be a doing something right (and I've asked around after developing a relationship with them and this was a factor).It's sad but true. I've seen absolutely awesome (and financial successful) sites and blogs with pageranks of 1 and 2. I think if we've not all be fooled by Google's PageRank then it's pretty close to being - I even know from Google insiders ... namedropping here ;-) that they want to make major changes to pagerank (if not dump it all together) as they're not happy how it's developed over time. Yeah, I’m with you on the PageRank issue. I think we’ve all become to conscious of it and it’s making us waste our time and neglect real things we could be doing to make our sites better.

The only benefit I get from my Pagerank (PR5) is that when I approach other bigger bloggers/websites and seek introductions I usually get a better foot in the door because they see my pagerank and assume I must be a doing something right (and I’ve asked around after developing a relationship with them and this was a factor).It’s sad but true.

I’ve seen absolutely awesome (and financial successful) sites and blogs with pageranks of 1 and 2. I think if we’ve not all be fooled by Google’s PageRank then it’s pretty close to being – I even know from Google insiders … namedropping here ;-) that they want to make major changes to pagerank (if not dump it all together) as they’re not happy how it’s developed over time.

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