You may have heard that having a web community is a great way to increase sales, customer loyalty and word of mouth for your web business. In fact a web community itself, if large enough and targeting an affluent demographic (or one that advertisers like to target), has the potential to bring in revenue. Commonly people use a web forum as the centre point for a web community. However building a popular forum is no easy task and requires patience and dedication.
Over the years I’ve built many forum communities, from my most successful with over 2000 members at MTGParadise Forums to the not as successful YoungActivist Forums which struggled to get out the gate (not helped by my own lack of contribution after I finished building the site). To help you better understand what it takes to build a successful forum I will outline some of the lessons I have learnt over the years.
Perhaps the least important variable, but certainly a vital aspect, is the forum software you choose. I came to settle on Invision Board as my favourite forum of choice. Over the years I became very familiar with Invison Board functions so it would take a lot for me to switch to different forum software. Unfortunately the team at Invision recently stopped offering a fully functional free version and the most current free version has limitations on numbers of users. I’m a strong supporter of Invision so I still recommend using the free service and then paying to upgrade once your board is large enough to warrant it. Chances are with your forum being that popular means you can justify the fee anyway.
The other top quality free forum out there is phpBB which is the open source offering. I haven’t used this myself but with Invision no longer being free I can see this being the main player for all small business forums. I see this forum everywhere so I think you can take that as a strong endorsement.
Another popular choice, especially for large corporates that can afford the fee is vBulletin. This seems to the professional forum of choice for those with the moolah. I only played with this forum many years ago when they had a limited use free version (in fact it was the first forum I ever installed). It’s definitely a top forum with a great design, but you pay for it.
As I said which forum software you choose is not too important. You are going to have to learn to use at least one, so choose the one that satisfies your criteria and then get playing. If the idea of installing forum software is daunting to you then I suggest you look at the installation services most forum businesses offer. You can pay a small fee and one of the staff or community members will install the software for you. There are also remotely hosted forums where you don’t install any software at all on your server but instead use one hosted by the forum company. Note this often either costs money or is advertiser supported so you might have some icky banners or other ads streamed across your forum. I recommend you host the forum on your own server because you get control, ownership and better search engine benefits.
Regardless of which forum software you choose the hardest part of building a community is getting members, and members that stick around. Obviously your forum should be targeted to your business niche or target market if it’s not a business site. My MTGParadise Forum was all about trading and talking Magic. The forum at Yaz! is devoted to trading and community for Australian university students.
Picking the niche area you target is vital for success, and the individual forums you create for your community must clearly represent the purpose of your community. However this is where some lessons can be learnt. At first when you start building categories and individual forums you might get carried away with all the interesting forums you can create. You dream of your users lapping it up and talking away about every little area of interest you can come up with. This is the first major mistake you can make. You end up creating way too many forums that have no topics in them. Even if you do manage to bring some quality visitors to your site, they hit your forum and see an empty place and then move on. No one feels compelled to join an empty forum.
But you may ask then, how can you go from having an empty forum to one filled with topics when no one wants to get things started? It’s a catch 22 isn’t it! The number one concept to remember is that people bring in people. If visitors see topics and posts and discussions they are interested in they are more likely to contribute. It’s hardest early on when you first launch but there are some tricks you can do. Here are the key pointers I’ve learnt to get passed this early stage of a ghost-town forum.
1. Think minimalist when building categories and forums.
Look to about four forums maximum to start with, even less if possible. If you find yourself coming up with many different forum subjects, try and group them together under one forum. Then in that forum you can create individual topic posts to cater to each area. That way you are creating conversation starters and making the place look a little busier. As the forums grow and you have enough individual entries to start breaking down forums you can justify creating new ones. You can then move the existing topics into the appropriate categories and the forum doesn’t start off empty. Take a look at this topic at MTGParadise.com where one of the new owners, my mate ssteven, has just recently broken down one forum into two.
2. As the owner you must keep contributing.
This might seem obvious, but it’s hard to keep motivated when week after week you create new topics and try to stimulate conversation and you seem to be talking to yourself. Personally I get the most excited when I first build the forum, thinking of all the great topics that can be discussed. Unfortunately once everything is done it does take some effort to keep writing fresh content. The only rule I can give is stick to it. Get into a routine of making a few posts everyday.
Now expanding on this concept…
3. Create some fake personalities.
This may seem a little dishonest, but a little trick you can use to stimulate conversation is to create a few different member accounts each with their own personality. Basically you create some fictional members and get posting. You can even have full forum conversations between your characters (just don’t go insane!). Only you know which characters are fake, to everyone else it appears as if your forum is getting popular.
I had a friend take this idea so seriously that he kept profile notes on each character such as age, sex, personality type, occupation etc so whenever he made posts he made sure to get into character first. It’s like forum acting.
This method again takes dedication because you need to keep logging in with each character and making new posts. However it can be MUCH more effective than if it was just you making all the posts as your own identity. It looks sad when the webmaster is chatting away to no one, but not quite as sad when Jim, Katie, Chris and Jane are having conversations even if they really are all the webmaster.
4. Publish content.
There are sites available such as ezine articles that have articles you are allowed to publish on your site provided you follow their terms of use policy (which usually means you publish the articles exactly as they are and keep all links intact). The authors of these articles make them free because they get good promotion if their article is widely published. Note that because these are free articles you will most likely find that you are not the only site out there with the content.
If you want unique content you may have to pay for it and consider hiring columnists. With MTGParadise we had such a good community that many of our members were happy to write articles and reports for free. They enjoyed writing and seeing their article published. It’s not easy to generate free unique articles this way especially early on before you have a community running, so it might be necessary to throw around a little cash and buy some articles.
If you can find content relevant to your market and distribute it to your community you have a good way to stimulate conversation and make your forum look a little busier.
5. Recruit your mates and spread the word.
This is harder than you’d think. If you are like me, most of my closest friends are too busy or not really the forum community types so they won’t help out much. Generally though you should have a few friends that are interested in the topic of your forum and they might help out with a post every now and then. Don’t put to much pressure on them and be thankful for anything they contribute. You don’t want to get carried away trying to get your forum off the ground that you lose your friends because you constantly pester them to make posts or join up.
As a general rule, don’t be shy, tell everyone you know about your forum. But only do it once in a polite manner. Say you are inviting them to check out something you have created and that you want their valuable opinion before you officially launch. This “sneak peek” will make your friends and family feel special because you are demonstrating that you value their opinion so they will be more inclined to check out your site.
You can put a note in your signature file in your email about your new community, make a few posts at newsgroups that focus on your target market and hit some other complimentary (not competitor) forums to advertise your new forum. Remember always be courteous, follow rules and don’t come across too desperate whenever you promote your forum. All this will come across negatively and harm your chances of members signing up.
The most important tip I can give you to grow your community is to not give up. Even though YoungActivist.com is sitting out there all alone with no members and very old content I still value the site. While I didn’t achieve the success I wanted off the bat, I haven’t given up and hope that one day can I can get the site growing again.
Sometime after months, maybe even years of making new posts, adding content and spreading the word, you will find that your forum has grown to have a few hundred members, a handful of devoted regulars and no longer requires daily injections of posts from you. You reach a critical mass and your community moves forward without too much intervention from you. This is the holy grail of forum building because your members became the best advertising tool you could ever have. Word of mouth helps the site to continue to grow and attract new members. You can start creating new forums with confidence that they won’t be empty for long. Best of all, you now have an audience that you can either leverage around your own products or services or start to derive revenue from through advertising, premium services or subscriptions etc etc.
Yaro Starak
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Wow - thanks so much for that information! I’m always looking around for some advice on how to earn a bit online, and I think I’ve just found a goldmine of knowledge. I particularly like your advice on getting the message across to friends - don’t be too pushy. Unfortunately, I’ve been a bit of a bully with my games website - I just can’t stop shouting it out anywhere I go online. Perhaps now I shall remain calm, and tell people to check out my new content before I post it live occasionally! Thanks again - I’ll be sticking around this site for a while!
Yup, really good article!
[…] 4. Community Forums, chatrooms, bulletin boards and any form of membership service helps to keep visitors glued to your site. All these services take time to build up the appropriate critical mass of users. However once your community tools take off the value they provide is hard to beat. People enjoy interacting with other people and if they are doing it on your site then you have more time to show them advertisements or convince them to join a list etc. If you want some tips on forum building try this article - How to Build a Super-Popular Forum Community in 5 Easy Steps. […]
Wow thank’s for the articles.
I am an Indonesian, n i am 20 years old, sorry for my English, i’m not good in English
I run a web forum, it is Motivasy.com you can access it on http://www.motivasy.com the forum is about entrepreneur, motivation, positif thinking, self development for business n life skill.
Yeah you’re so right, it is so hard to make it crowd. I need so hard work in publishing n marketing.
I have a questin, how can i get some advertising in my web site? n how they pay us? n how many the cost? i hope u can reply me on my mail: deniar@motivasy.com
Hi Deniar, I suggest you continue reading this blog as most of the questions you have asked are answered in other articles.
Thanks for visiting!
Hi Yaro
Thank’s
can we discuss about it in e-mail. Please mail me deniar@motivasy.com
I need more suggest about this business
Hi Deniar,
I’m sorry but I don’t have time to personally provide business coaching over email, especially for free. I’m happy to answer questions in comments because that also helps other people but email doesn’t have this benefit.
I’ll be launching a consulting service soon that might suit your needs. Stay tuned to yaro.com.au.
Love this site! I really need the help because I don’t know what the heck I’m doing and the concept is really cool. I’d like to see my blog turn into something that actually helps society. Thanks for all you work and good luck on all you do. BTW, I tried youngactivist.com and got nothing.
WOW!!! That article is so true! Everything you said has happened to me! My friends dont really want to post that much, and I post up topics that nobody responds to! I feel not as alone now! Thanks a lot, and I will take your wonderful advice!!! -MATT
Thanks for heading me in the direction of this article Yaro. A few little tid bits in here that I’m going to use on my sprintrants forum and may even use on my newest forum that should be live in a few weeks!
Great post.
[…] Create multiple personalities :- Now this is something interesting but dishonest I’ve seen in a similar article written by Yaro Starak(How to Build a Super-Popular Forum Community in 5 Easy Steps.). It is nice idea to get your site off to a nice start. Sign up youself as multiple personalities and talk with yourself. […]
[…] Since I opened my new forum today I went and looked for great articles or posts about building a successful forum. After some hard digging with google’s not very accurate matches I found Yaron Starak post about building a popular forum. […]
Some good advise you have put up here. Thank you!
It made me start thinking about the future of my own forum..
Regards,
Miqe
Thanks Man i realy hope this helps my forum
Thanks for the advise i have not had even a guest for a long time ! ! !
Thanks for this article, Yaro. It has allowed me to think more logically about how to set up a forum on a site I am planning.
Thanks for the article, good guide for me as a starter in community world.
>> 3. Create some fake personalities.
Very good point. This approach is also applicable to the blogs, not only to forums. When I just created my first blog in the far 2002 there were no blog community in my experience area at all. Actually, I used to explain to my visitors what is the blog itself.
Then, I started to use fake characters, and this did the job. People started commenting and soon I got a lot of real participants.
I even know a web designer who made portfolio of designs for 20 web sites of fake companies. Having this portfolio, he came to the the real companies and attracted them affectively. Despite the fact these 20 designs were made for fictive companies, they were made well.
So, as soon as you write valuable content, it is pretty honest to comment yourself, especially if your comments are as good as content you wrote.
[…] http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/41/building-a-forum-community/ […]
I took down my Dr Sheep and the Aardvark forum because the only people it attracted were spammers. Any tips on how to avoid this?
@friedegg - I suggest first getting a good anti-spam plug-in for your forum and a moderation team too so you can deal with the spam, then after that go to work building up your forum by marketing it and making sure you post to it daily.
Thanks mate. I have taken your advice and am now getting a bit of activity on the forum. Best wishes.
Hi guys,
Just to add to Yaros great article, what I did with my forum was to throw a few bucks at the Google Adwords program.
I might have been lucky and found a niche market but the adwords saw a steady flow of visitors from which I got a reasonable amount of new members. The forum has been online for only a couple of months and has nearly 70 members, most of which come by regularly to see whats being said.
What I found too is that the more posts contributed to the forum by the members, the more hits from the search engines I’ve been getting. For instance, this happens more often then not if lets say, a Googler searches for something on Google and their search phrase just happens to match something written within the forum itself. Great stuff!
Even though it may be a result in the off-topic discussion forum, a hit is a hit and is something to point out when the time comes to solicit some outside advertising. I’m getting about 3 or 4 new members weekly just by users searching for something so I don’t have to use the adwords anymore.
I’ve also put the Google Adsense thingimyjig on the forum which is making enough to pay for the hosting.
The forum is only 2 or 3 months old and is growing steadily so if anyone is considering launching a new forum, I definitely recommend using Google Adwords along with the fake identities concept to market it initially. It also helps if you know a little SEO but if not, you’ll probably get enough hits from your threads to see some new fresh faces drop in on you.
Also, my forum is for Avon cosmetics so I could keep members coming back by offering them something for nothing. What I did was to let them post their own contact details on the forum so anyone who came by wanting to join Avon could contact them as their local sales rep directly. This was something out of the norm as beforehand, new Avon leads would be harvested by sales reps and sold to other sales reps in their local area. Proved to be a bit of a hit idea. I’m sure this idea could be altered to suit any theme/forum/niche as the concept is just the same.
What else I wanted to do was to require a minimum post count before these sales reps could post in this part of the forum, this way I’d have plenty of posts from members keen to solicit leads from the forum but PHPBB didnt have the feature (should have went vBulletin or InvisionPB) but PHPBB is free and you can upgrade to either of the latter later without losing your members/posts.
To close, I was spending only about £15/$30 per week for Adwords which I got about 150/170 targetted hits. If anyone is serious about getting their forum off the ground, I’d recommend this first ;o)
Thanks guys,
Hannah x
Thanks for a great article.
Just in the process of starting a new forum, (see http://www.love-pattaya.com) and your comments have given me new motivation to get the ball rolling !!!
Many Thanks again.