Sep 28 2007

PageRank Update In Progress?

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Update: I’ve added a question mark to this post because it appears perhaps the PageRank update is NOT in progress. I thought I saw enough signs – a few of my sites have changed, John Chow’s changed too and a couple of blogs were talking about – but perhaps these are just random events and not indicating a full update is in progress. Apologies if I got your hopes up!

It never ceases to amaze me how much attention the budding webmaster and blogger gives to PageRank (if you are new to PageRank, read this explanation – PageRank Explained – Keeping SEO Simple).

In the last month or so I’ve seen some speculation that PageRank is no longer being updated and Google was abandoning it – or at least no longer updating the public display of PageRank on web pages. Given their now famous stance against text link buying to improve search results, it made sense that PageRank could be changed or simply left static, never to update again.

Word on the street is that the latest PageRank update is now occurring, so here we are again, all eagerly awaiting to see what happens to our sites. The speculation of PageRank’s demise will have to wait for another few months or until Google actually says something about it.

In recent times with the advent of services to make money from blogs like Text Link Ads and when selling advertising directly to sponsors, a site’s PageRank plays an important part (along with AlexaRank).

PageRank and AlexaRank are known for being terrible tools to accurately assess a website’s popularity, yet many third party advertising brokering services that bloggers and site owners depend on for a big chunk of their livelihood, rely on these tools for assessing how much money to charge for advertising.

Nothing I do is directly related to increasing my PageRank, but like most Webmasters, I love to see mine increase. I realize that simply because of the act of blogging and marketing a website, you naturally do good things for your PageRank, but the focus is not on whether the little green bar increases or not. You don’t judge your performance on PageRank, it’s just an added benefit.

Like many webmasters, I always look at the PageRank of sites and it definitely impacts my opinion of them. I don’t think it’s an accurate measure, but it gets attention, and in today’s ad driven world wide web – that matters.

So what PageRank score are you expecting after this update?

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  1. 1
    On September 28, 2007 at 10:19 am Carlo Selorio said:

    Hi Yaro,

    I’ve always been curious with Google’s Page Rank system. I’ve been doing my best to provide great content on my blog.

    I’m hoping that the new page rank update, I get a page rank 3 or 4.

    Cheeers,
    Carlo Selorio

  2. 2
    On September 28, 2007 at 10:40 am Bob said:

    I have make the habit of valuing a webpage by its PR too. With Google toolbar its hard not to.

  3. 3
    On September 28, 2007 at 12:30 pm Millionster said:

    PR is misleading because I’ve seen a number of poor quality sites with high page rank. Just because you have sites linking to you doesnt make you an authority. It’s a quid pro quo if you ask me.

  4. 4
    On September 28, 2007 at 4:57 pm Galder said:

    I don’t think I will pass the PR 4 I have at the moment.

  5. 5
    On September 28, 2007 at 5:18 pm Caroline Middlebrook said:

    My blog is brand new so I’m not expecting much, though it would be nice to move beyond simply “unranked”.

  6. 6
    On September 28, 2007 at 6:14 pm Seo said:

    Yeah… I measure also the quality of website by its Google PR. Google will update it, It means that Google is trying to provide quality content sites with more exposure, and by using their page ranking system, only the sites with relevant, quality content will be considered in both the search results and the link exchange calculations.

  7. 7
    On September 28, 2007 at 7:26 pm Daniel said:

    Yaro, how do you know the PR update is in progress?

  8. 8
    On September 28, 2007 at 7:27 pm Jack Norell said:

    I’m expecting the same, 4/10. Haven’t built up enough links to move up yet and same with the content.

    PR should be considered as just that, the other meaning of PR. The only organization helped by that little green bar is Google, as it helps keep us web marketeers inanely focused on one fairly irrelevant factor.

  9. 9
    On September 28, 2007 at 7:32 pm Matt Jones said:

    Blogging Fingers is predicted PR5 but I wouldn’t pull my hair out if I got PR4.

  10. 10
    On September 28, 2007 at 10:03 pm Hoto said:

    i just started a new blog at 12.sep.2007 so i really don`t know what to expect out of the pr run. i think from 0 to pr3 will be a good start.

  11. 11
    On September 28, 2007 at 11:47 pm Monika @ The Writers Manifesto said:

    Hi Yaro

    I expect a PR of 3, but would love to get a 4.
    We shall see I guess, time will tell.

    Monika

  12. 12
    On September 28, 2007 at 11:48 pm Ken Xu said:

    Iwebtool.com predict my blog will get PR 5 with accuracy of 79%. :) I wonder if that will happen.

  13. 13
    On September 28, 2007 at 11:55 pm Deron Sizemore said:

    I would love to receive a 5 on the update (that’s what iwebtool predicts) but who knows? I know those tools are really just about as useless as PageRank itself, but like others, I’m just as eager to see what I get and hopefully finally see some page rank when I visit my site rather than a big fat buzz kill zero. :)

  14. 14
    On September 29, 2007 at 12:10 am Andrew G.R. said:

    Have been sitting at a PR5 and would be content staying right there…

  15. 15
    On September 29, 2007 at 12:23 am Danny @ Blogs For Money said:

    My site is less than a month old, but iwebtool estimates a 5. Fingers crossed :-)

  16. 16
    On September 29, 2007 at 2:13 am Adnan said:

    Even though I’m on a PR5 at the mo, I really really want a PR6. I doubt that’s gonna happen this time around though.

  17. 17
    On September 29, 2007 at 3:00 am Court said:

    Hi Yaro! Are you sure there’s an export going on? I can’t see any of the usual changes that happen during an update. I was suspicious because John Chow dropped to a PR5, but I’m wondering now if that was a manual update.

    I’m not sure! Have you seen any other changes?

  18. 18
    On September 29, 2007 at 4:15 am Tom said:

    There’s nothing in the digitalpoint forums about a pagerank update…where do you get your information?

  19. 19
    On September 29, 2007 at 6:17 am Fred333 said:

    Great article, but how does a month old website get a rank of 5 already?

  20. 20
    On September 29, 2007 at 6:43 am Tim Broder said:

    My site is new so it doesn’t have a page rank showing. I really have no idea what to expect so 1 or 2?

  21. 21
    On September 29, 2007 at 7:22 am Leadsbroker said:

    Well I have been haging on for some PR for quite a bit.. Its so wrong. But I can’t resist…

    Sam

  22. 22
    On September 29, 2007 at 8:36 am Yaro said:

    Daniel – As always I don’t know for sure, but I’ve noticed PageRank start to fluctuate on my sites (and others) and seen quite a few bloggers/forums talking about it.

    That’s generally all the indication you need.

    Yaro

  23. 23
    On September 29, 2007 at 9:59 am Yaro said:

    Okay – perhaps it’s not going on, so I’ve adjusted this post to indicate that it’s speculation.

  24. 24
    On September 29, 2007 at 4:19 pm toto said:

    Yeah right.. iwebtool… Its just a stupid tool if for google.com sais insuficien backlinks !!!
    google.com Insufficient backlinks* :)

  25. 25
    On September 30, 2007 at 9:05 pm David Elefant said:

    I have seen people buy expired domains with PageRank 6 slap some content on the domain add a few links and the domainstill has PageRank 6 a year later. Eventhough the new content is not at all related to the content that was on the domain before it expired.

    What does that tell us about PageRank!

  26. 26
    On October 1, 2007 at 3:31 pm AhBoon said:

    I agree with you that Goooogle is trying to change the PR rules. My site’s PR is still the same while I notice most of my posts have climb to a good position in Google Search. :D

  27. 27
    On October 1, 2007 at 10:15 pm Stephan Miller said:

    I am not really sure of that one. My alexa ranking has been steadily increasing over the lasted month, but I also got John Chowed for my own name.
    I think mine will stay the same this time around. I want to hit a four next time though.
    But either way I am not here to watch numbers go up and down, except for maybe my real stats.

  28. 28
    On October 2, 2007 at 3:10 am reash said:

    It is really hard not to look at the page rank of the site you are visiting. My site is currently PR2 and I am expecting for an increase since I have been very busy trying to improve my site but my blog is new so, I am not expecting much but it would nice to have PR0 rather than have N/A.

    It is really sad that people judge the site base on their PR and not on their contents, there are a lot of useless sites that bears high PR and there are also a lot good quality sites that bears little PR or no PR at all.

  29. 29
    On October 2, 2007 at 8:40 am Ezhil Raja said:

    There’ll be no update for another few weeks :)

  30. 30
    On October 7, 2007 at 7:33 am av Chimay said:

    There has been so many backlink updates recently that my opinion is that Google is undergoing a major cleanup in their databases. These frequent updates started end og july 2007. That’s when the pagerank update was expected. Something big is boiling. Be patient.
    Hellig Birma

  31. 31
    On October 8, 2007 at 3:19 am Dansko said:

    It has also become a habit of me to predict the quality of the site PR, and I have SearchStatus Firefox plugin installed. But I know that some low quality websites are also given high PR. how does this happen ? I’ve seen websites of PR5 and PR6 and they re nowhere to be found on Google. If Google don’t give them ranking and why do give higher PR, if PR and rankings are whole different things ? I also have Compete bar on my SearchStatus, it displays how many US visitors a website gets from US, and it is also helpful in predicting the quality.

  32. 32
    On October 13, 2007 at 4:26 pm mark said:

    I feel in my knee that it should be this weekend …

  33. 33
    On October 17, 2007 at 2:44 am cleiton said:

    My site is new so it doesn’t have a page rank showing.
    http://www.ganheanunciando.com

  34. 34
    On October 17, 2007 at 4:57 am Phoenix said:

    We only see some minor changes but new sites are not PRed yet.

  35. 35
    On October 29, 2007 at 10:18 pm Strategic Internet Marketing said:

    Just ignore google PR.. We still get the trafics for the keywords we want!

  36. 36
    On December 5, 2007 at 11:05 pm odchoi said:

    Hi I still don’t understand why pr is so important but I am working on it and been posting to a lot of blogs tonight.

  37. 37
    On December 6, 2007 at 5:17 pm Sirawan Nornil said:

    Hi Yaro,

    I expect a PR of 3 – 4 for my new blog. How to do that?

  38. 38
    On February 17, 2008 at 11:44 am Edward Beckett said:

    Content IS King.

  39. 39
    On July 29, 2008 at 6:34 am my-sauna said:

    PR is outdated. We don’t care about it anymore. All that matters are content, content and the anchor text of our backlinks.

  40. 40
    On February 13, 2009 at 8:11 pm Diseñador said:

    I do not know if Google updates the pagerank, but I already has over 1 years with a PR4, every time Google does not put it more difficult to attract visitors to our site, Google wants all the web traffic for them, is not just be left to compete and I am trying to get by with Google Adsense.Pero really earn a pittance if you have it 5 to attract more visitors.

    Greetings.

  41. 41
    On February 13, 2009 at 11:38 pm beachcomber said:

    I don’t care, in the slightest, about page rank.

    I have 5 websites and 2 blogs – all with a page rank of ‘0′.

    Some of them over 2 years old.

    I think page rank has a lot more to do with “who you know” than “what you know”.

    You know?

    I’ll go…..
    beachcomber

  42. 42
    On July 5, 2009 at 5:29 am Jucarii said:

    From what i have noticed, Google changes PR from a semester to a semester. And if you want your PR to grow you must have links on very popular and high PR websites.

  43. 43
    On October 1, 2009 at 2:29 am jucarii said:

    It is very hard to pass a page rank of 4 points. From what i`ve noticed it`s hard to get it to 2points and then to 5, but it can be done.

  44. 44
    On January 23, 2010 at 7:43 am tratament sperma said:

    i work at a company who payed another company to post comments on different blogs around the web. they charge about 10cents for post. now our website has a pr of 4 points, so… i think this is a good way to make your site known on the web

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