Continuing the thread from yesterday’s post regarding Ed Dale and the Dominiche system for buying and selling websites, I thought I might relay the story of how I acquired a set of niche websites that presently generate roughly $1675 in monthly passive income.
Unhappy With My Blog Income
The reason why I decided to go looking to buy websites was because I was not satisfied with the income I was generating from blogging. I was making about about $2,000 to $4,000 per month, no small amount for most bloggers, but I was still frustrated with the slow growth that is the nature for most blogs. This was back in the latter half of 2006.
I wanted to use the revenue generated from blogging and reinvest it to accelerate my income growth, but I was wary of increasing my labor as a result of any purchases. I had already experienced what happens after buying another blog when I acquired SmallBusinessBranding.com back in December 2005.
For the months that followed the purchase of Small Business Branding I came to a very clear understanding that while buying additional blogs can increase your income, unless you come up with an alternative content model to writing it all yourself, you end up significantly increasing your workload.
There is only so much blogging one person can do, and if you read through the archives of this blog you will see I have thought considerably about using blogs as a passive income source and eventually changed the structure of Small Business Branding to reflect a better model (see How To Outsource Your Blogging for details and also my series on professional blogging as a sustainable business model).
With my previous experience I decided that for my next website purchase I wanted something that was a pure passive income source (or as close as possible) and preferably was so from day one – I didn’t want to have to hire any people to produce content or perform any significant ongoing roles myself after buying the site.
User Generated Content Is Gold
I’ve always loved sites that grow because of the existing user base. If the people who use your website also create the content, thus generate the value, and even better – spread the word (market) for you – then you have the perfect formula for passive income.
Forums are one of the best and simplest examples of a user generated content site, but unfortunately forums are notoriously hard to monetize and take forever to gain traction if you start them from scratch. However I knew, based on my previous experience owning a forum, that I could make them work and as a result I focused on locating forums as my main site acquisition targets.
For a few months I monitored the SitePoint Marketplace on a casual basis, occasionally bidding on sites, but nothing was compelling enough to purchase.
I had a rough price range that I was willing to shop within of around $2,000 to $20,000 since I had that much money disposable for purchases, although it would have to be something special if I was to invest $20,000. At several points during the past year I’ve been part of the bidding process for some high priced sites, including BlogExplosion when it went up for sale that I was willing to spend as much as $50,000 on (I would find the money – somehow), but it sold for a lot more so I missed it.
Making A Purchase
One day while checking in at SitePoint I came across an auction for some sites that appeared to match my criteria. They were forum based, required little ongoing maintenance and best of all, were already revenue producing to the tune of roughly $1,000 per month.
Generally with sites that match my criteria, they match the criteria of a lot of other buyers as well, so unless you act fast you often miss out on the best deals. Each time I have bought a site or nearly bought a site it’s been because I decided quickly and then acted quickly. There’s a risk involved of course, so I always suggest spending money you can afford to lose when investing in web property.
Thankfully with my line of work I can monitor SitePoint during the day, conduct research on sites quickly and be at the point where I am making an offer within thirty minutes of seeing an auction. Usually I like to contact the seller directly and see if I can offer them a buy-it-now (BIN) price for an immediate sale so I don’t risk being outbid. This can result sometimes in paying a bit more or a bit less, depending on demand, but it helps to ensure you get the site.
The niche forums in this case were advertised with a BIN price of $12,000 Australian dollars and were bidding around the $8,000 mark (I think), although there was a lot of time still to go when I came across the auction. Luckily for me, this buyer was qualifying the auction as only for Australian buyers because of the need for an ABN (Australian Business Number) in order to take over ownership of the .com.au domain names. As one of the few Australian bidders on SitePoint willing to invest multiple thousand dollars in a purchase, I knew I had a good chance of landing the sites if I moved immediately.
I contacted the seller, initially via private message and email, then had a discussion over the phone to make sure things were legitimate and I was dealing with an actual person. I did some due diligence, checked the stats and reviewed the archive history of the sites. Everything checked out so I went with a buy it now offer of $12,000 AUD, broken down into two payments of $6,000, one at the start of the month and one at the end, to make sure I could verify the traffic and income before finalizing the deal.
I considered the price reasonable for sites bringing in $1,000 USD per month – I didn’t get a bargain based on SitePoint standards, but in the offline world if you could invest $12,000 to get a 10% MONTHLY return you would jump at the chance.
Here Are The Sites I Bought
The deal went through smoothly and I became the owner of a set of three niche sites related to the pocket and mini bikes niche. The sites are -
- Miniriders – Mini dirt bikes and pit bikes forum which now has 7,000 plus members, 600+ active members and usually has around 40-50 members on the site at any one point in time.
- Pocket Bike Racing – A pocket bike community forum with 6,000 members, 200+ active members and around 25 members on the site at any point in time. When I purchased the sites, this forum was the main feature, but Miniriders was growing like crazy after I bought it and it became the leading forum in the package.
- Mini Bike Videos – A little YouTube style video sites just for mini bike videos. This site was sort of a bonus thrown in, although it does make a few dollars a day from AdSense.
Bringing On Help
I had some ideas on how I wanted to further increase the income from the sites, but for the moment my main concern was putting in place a manager to look after them and ensuring things continued smoothly. I had recently begun my training in Rich Schefren’s Strategic Profits Business Growth System program and I was well aware that I should not put too much of my own time into keeping the new sites going. My focus was still blogging, but I wanted to have some additional passive income too.
Robert Kingston had come on board to help out with Small Business Branding, initially as a writer, then as head editor and manager. I offered Rob the chance to come work with me on the new bike sites I had just acquired in exchange for a share in the revenues. Rob eagerly agreed and has been in charge of the sites ever since.
Rob and I made some changes to the bike sites over the months after the purchase to make sure they would run smoothly. Rob made sure there was an active moderator team and got a feel for how the communities operated. We moved the sites to my servers and then went to work to increase revenues.
At the time AdSense and Linkworth were the only income sources that sites had, with AdSense generating about $800-$900 a month and Linkworth around the $50-$150 range.
I knew the sites had a ton of income potential, in particular I thought long term, just having a list the size of the memberships made the sites a bargain, but first we decided to work on the “low hanging fruit” monetization methods that could be implemented quickly. This is an area I know quite well having monetized my blogs and before that, my first successful online venture was a forum site for Magic players in Australia that made money from advertising.
I wanted to set up private sponsors, so I asked Rob to implement a few basic things, like an advertise section and to contact any likely sponsors, who were easy enough to locate because some of the retailers who sell bike related products are members of the forums.
After some initial hiccups because I over priced the advertising packages, Rob sealed some deals with three sponsors, each paying $150 a month, adding another $450 to the monthly revenue.
Next we began testing some other services, most of which you should know well, including Text-Link-Ads, Auction Ads and more recently, WidgetBucks. Text-Link-Ads is working okay, referring around $50 a month. Auction Ads has brought in as much as $150 in a month, although it seems to have settled down to about the $50-$100 mark, and so far in testing WidgetBucks is not converting at all, but given the nature of the communities (mini bikes) and the products WidgetBucks promotes (not bikes), this is not surprising and I think we will be taking WidgetBucks down very soon.
As a result of the few monetization techniques we have implemented thus far, the sites have grown from around $1,000 a month to around $1,500 to $2,000 on a reasonably consistent basis. My goal was to grow the income to $2,000 a month although I believe if I really focused on the sites, for example by starting up blogs and adding an email newsletter to each forum, the income could be as high as $5,000 month (with added expenses though) given the size of the communities.
Buy, Monetize and Hold
At the moment I’m not doing much more with the sites other than keeping them going. Rob watches the communities daily and every now and then we test new monetization methods.
My mind is not on these sites although I haven’t considered selling them off either because I believe the longer you hold on to healthy sites the larger they grow, and since they are cashflow positive, there’s no compelling reason to sell. By the end of this year I should have made back my investment cost.
This is a great example of a website buying process that went well. If you take action quickly, do your due diligence before buying, and know how to monetize websites or are prepared to learn, then this is one of the easiest ways to get into making money online.
Let’s pretend I wasn’t a blogger and instead became virtual property investor. With the bike sites I could have started with a $12,000 investment, bought the sites, worked on them myself and with a few short months created a stable $2,000 a month income source, which for a lot of people is enough to live off. From there, I could reinvest in more property or focus on growing the sites to increase revenues.
As I said in my last article on buying and selling websites – this is one of, if not the easiest way to get into the Internet business game and it’s darn speedy too if you have the funds to invest or know how to strike a deal using other people’s money.
If I ever grow tired of blogging, you can bet what I will be doing to make my living is buying and selling websites.
Web Property Investor
PS. As I type this Ed Dale has opened the doors again to Dominiche, his training program on how to buy and sell websites for huge profits. Ed has flipped sites for millions and has personally made 9 million dollars buying and selling websites, so he REALLY knows the process.
If you are interested in more hands on training and want to know the step-by-step process to buy and sell websites without getting lost, where to find the best sites and how to avoid buying a lemon, then Dominiche is something worth investigating. You can check it out here -